{"id":1158,"date":"2013-09-04T03:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-09-04T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/92.45.35.169\/wilcoyla-yasasin-gezmek\/"},"modified":"2024-07-03T16:00:51","modified_gmt":"2024-07-03T13:00:51","slug":"wilcoyla-yasasin-gezmek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kariyer.net\/kariyer-rehberi\/wilcoyla-yasasin-gezmek\/","title":{"rendered":"Wilco\u2019yla ya\u015fas\u0131n gezmek"},"content":{"rendered":"

Karavan\u0131yla gezdi\u011fi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de gezgin ruhu ve samimi sohbetiyle programlar\u0131n\u0131 haz\u0131rlayan Wilco van Herpen,\u00a0 bu \u00f6zelliklerinin \u00e7ocuklu\u011fundan geldi\u011fini anlat\u0131yor. Hollanda\u2019da ba\u015flayan maceras\u0131na T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de devam eden Wilco, her zaman bir \u00e7ocu\u011fun merak\u0131na sahip olmak istedi\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\nR\u00f6portajdan birka\u00e7 g\u00fcn \u00f6nce \u015f\u00f6yle bir yak\u0131n \u00e7evreme \u201c Wilco\u2019yla r\u00f6portaja gidece\u011fim\u201d dedi\u011fimde herkesin ilk tepkisi olduk\u00e7a \u00e7o\u015fkulu oldu: \u201cAaa o biz onu \u00e7ok be\u011feniyoruz, \u00e7ok de\u011fi\u015fik yerlere gidiyor, teyzelerle ne kadar da g\u00fczel konu\u015fuyor\u2026\u201d\u00a0 Hatta aralar\u0131nda r\u00f6portaja gelmek isteyenler bile olmad\u0131 de\u011fil\u2026<\/p>\n

\u0130\u015fte b\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar\u0131 dinleyerek bulu\u015ftu\u011fum Wilco van Herpen, tam da televizyondaki ifadesi ve netli\u011fiyle ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor kar\u015f\u0131ma . Art\u0131k herkes kadar bural\u0131 olmu\u015f, konusuna \u00e7ok hakim ve ger\u00e7ekten s\u0131cak kanl\u0131. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bir gezgin olarak bir\u00e7ok yeri b\u00fct\u00fcn incelikleriyle bilen Wilco, daha sadece gelip gitmeye ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131 d\u00f6nemden itibaren buralarda iyi \u015feyler olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hissetti\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Bu hislerle 1999 y\u0131l\u0131nda tamamen yerle\u015fti\u011fi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de \u00e7ok zor zamanlar ge\u00e7irse de yine de hi\u00e7 fikrini de\u011fi\u015ftirmeyen Wilco van Herpen, 2005 y\u0131l\u0131ndan bu yana \u0130Z TV\u2019de Wilco\u2019nun Karavan\u0131 program\u0131n\u0131 yap\u0131yor. Yeni sezonda bu program\u0131n\u0131n yerine yine ayn\u0131 kanalda Wilco\u2019yla Ya\u015fas\u0131n Yemek ve \u0130ki G\u00f6z Bir \u015eehir programlar\u0131n\u0131 haz\u0131rlayan Wilco, hem gezmeye devam ediyor hem de s\u00fcrpriz yeni projeleriyle seyircinin kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kmaya haz\u0131rlan\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

Karavan\u0131yla Anadolu\u2019yu ba\u015ftan sona gezen, burada evlenen ve 4.5 ya\u015f\u0131nda bir k\u0131z\u0131 olan Wilco Van Herpen\u2019le T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye yerle\u015fme maceras\u0131n\u0131, a\u015f\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, gezginli\u011fini ve elbette burayla kurdu\u011fu ba\u011f\u0131 konu\u015ftuk.
\nGezgin ruhunuzla ba\u015flayal\u0131m\u2026 Hollanda\u2019dan T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye geli\u015finiz ve buray\u0131 ad\u0131m ad\u0131m gezmenize kadar, b\u00f6yle bir hayat\u0131n hayalini hep kurar m\u0131yd\u0131n\u0131z?<\/strong>
\nBenim kariyerimle ilgili sorular\u0131 cevaplayabilmem i\u00e7in bence bebekli\u011fime gitmek gerekir. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc her zaman b\u00fct\u00fcn basamaklar\u0131n benim i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u00fcm. Daha \u00e7ocukken sabah 4\u2019te kalk\u0131p bal\u0131k tutmaya giden, orada k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir kay\u0131k kiralayan, saatler boyunca orada otururken s\u0131k\u0131lan hatta oltalar\u0131 birbirine dolayan bir \u00e7ocuk d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn. Ya da anne ve babas\u0131yla do\u011fa y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015fleri yapan yani do\u011fayla \u00e7ocukken tan\u0131\u015fan, k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck karavanlarla tatil yapan, 14 – 15 ya\u015f\u0131ndayken kendi \u015farab\u0131n\u0131 yapan bir gen\u00e7lik\u2026 Kasap, manav, bah\u00e7\u0131van, garson, a\u015f\u00e7\u0131 ve \u00e7evreci olarak \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak. Ve bunlar\u0131n hepsi g\u00fcn\u00fcn birinde Wilco\u2019nun Karavan\u0131\u2019n\u0131 olu\u015fturdu.
\nBu \u00e7ocuklu\u011fun size en b\u00fcy\u00fck kazan\u0131mlar\u0131 neler oldu?<\/strong>
\nNereye gitsem, rahat\u0131m. Hem rahatl\u0131\u011f\u0131 hem de kurallar\u0131 iyi biliyorum. Bir \u00e7ift\u00e7i yan\u0131nda da bir teyze yan\u0131nda da bir ba\u015fkan yan\u0131nda da ayn\u0131y\u0131m. Bir defa \u00e7ok heyecanland\u0131m, o da ge\u00e7en y\u0131l Abdullah G\u00fcl\u2019le Hollanda\u2019ya giden heyetin aras\u0131ndayd\u0131m ve orada Azra Ak\u0131n\u2019la birlikte bir gecede sunuculuk yapt\u0131k. Ama \u015fimdi geriye d\u00f6n\u00fcp bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131mda bu da \u201ccepte\u201d diyorum. Herhalde art\u0131k uzaydan biri gelirse o zaman panikleyebilirim.
\nT\u00fcrkiye karar\u0131n\u0131 nas\u0131l verdiniz, bir anda m\u0131 oldu?<\/strong>
\nHollanda\u2019da a\u015f\u00e7\u0131l\u0131k okuluna gittim. Ama ben kapal\u0131 mekan sevmiyorum, s\u00fcrekli gezmek istiyorum. S\u00fcrekli yan\u0131mda kamera g\u00f6ren arkada\u015flar\u0131m bana foto\u011fraf e\u011fitimi almam\u0131 \u00f6nerdi. \u00c7ok do\u011fru bir \u00f6neri, ancak tabi bir anda y\u0131llar boyunca \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n bir i\u015fi b\u0131rakmak zor. \u00d6nce uzaktan e\u011fitimlere kat\u0131ld\u0131m sonra bir foto\u011fraf d\u00fckkan\u0131nda \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Buraya sat\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131 olarak ba\u015flad\u0131m ama st\u00fcdyo foto\u011fraf\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 oldum. D\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn foto\u011fraf\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 yapt\u0131m. \u0130ki y\u0131l sonra Afrika\u2019ya gitmek istedim ve 1992 – 93\u2019te Cape Town\u2019da kald\u0131m. Bir y\u0131l sonra Hollanda\u2019ya d\u00f6nd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcmde foto\u011fraf\u00e7\u0131 olarak \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya ba\u015flad\u0131m. \u0130\u015fte bu d\u00f6nemde etraf\u0131mda birka\u00e7 tane T\u00fcrk arkada\u015f\u0131m oldu. Onlar beni birka\u00e7 defa T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye getirdiler. Bana \u00e7ok enterasan geldi, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi turist olarak biliyordum ama di\u011fer b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc bilmiyordum. Gazi Mahallesi\u2019ni, 1 May\u0131s olaylar\u0131n\u0131 takip ettim. 1997 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u0130stiklal Caddesi\u2019nde foto\u011fraf sergisi a\u00e7t\u0131m ve o zaman karar verdim. Sanki 1960 Paris\u2019iydi ve burada ya\u015famak istedi\u011fimi anlad\u0131m. 1999 y\u0131l\u0131nda da \u00e7antam\u0131 toplad\u0131m ve geldim. 1999 depreminde Hollanda i\u00e7in \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m ve haber yapt\u0131m.
\nWilco\u2019nun Karavan\u0131 Program\u0131\u2019na kadar ba\u015fka programlar\u0131n\u0131z da oldu. 1999\u2019dan \u0130Z TV s\u00fcrecine kadar hayat zor ge\u00e7ti mi \"\"burada?<\/strong>
\nHollanda medyas\u0131 i\u00e7in haber yap\u0131yordum ama elbette s\u00fcrekli bir i\u015f de\u011fildi. \u00d6rne\u011fin, T\u00fcrk\u00e7e kursuna gittim \u00fc\u00e7 ay ama ikinci kura gitmem gerekiyor. Fakat bu s\u0131rada, bir bilgisayar ve taray\u0131c\u0131 da almak istiyorum foto\u011fraf i\u00e7in, tabi ki onlar\u0131 ald\u0131m. B\u00f6ylece kursa para kalmad\u0131. 2001 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u015eafak Bakkalba\u015f\u0131o\u011fu ile birlikte TRT2 i\u00e7in Ka\u00e7\u0131\u015f Plan\u0131 program\u0131n\u0131 yapt\u0131k. \u0130lk ba\u015fta \u00e7ok az T\u00fcrk\u00e7e konu\u015fuyordum. Ard\u0131ndan TV8\u2019de \u0130stanbul hakk\u0131nda haberler yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m Wilco\u2019nun G\u00f6z\u00fc program\u0131n\u0131 yapt\u0131k. Buradaki Avrasya Maratonu haberiyle \u00f6d\u00fcl ald\u0131k ama ondan hemen \u00f6nce kanal program\u0131 bitirmi\u015fti. Sonra bir s\u00fcre yine ufak tefek i\u015fler yapt\u0131m. Ama param yine \u201cYa\u015famak i\u00e7in yeterli de\u011fil \u00f6lmek i\u00e7in yeterli de\u011fil\u201d durumundayd\u0131 hep.
\nWilco\u2019nun Karavan\u0131 nas\u0131l ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131?<\/strong>
\n2005\u2019te \u0130Z TV\u2019nin teklifi geldi. Ben Co\u015fkun Aral\u2019\u0131n ekibiyle \u00f6nceden de \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. O d\u00f6nem e\u015fim yok, \u00e7ocu\u011fum yok, k\u0131sacas\u0131 rahat bir d\u00f6nemim ve hemen ba\u015flad\u0131m. \u0130Z TV\u2019ye ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131mda programc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00e7ok bilmiyordum asl\u0131nda, ama elbette Co\u015fkun Aral b\u00fcy\u00fck bir hoca ve \u00f6rnek oldu. Elbette art\u0131k o kadar spontan karar veremiyorum, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc k\u0131z\u0131m 4.5 ya\u015f\u0131nda. \u015eimdi bir aile olarak karar vermek \u00e7ok daha zor geliyor. Tabi kendimi kaybetmek de istemiyorum. O y\u00fczden de ben hayat\u0131m\u0131 kariyer olarak g\u00f6remiyorum, ya\u015fant\u0131mdan meyveler topluyorum, bazen \u0131s\u0131r\u0131yorum onu seviyorum, o bitiyor, ac\u0131 sebzeleri kenarda b\u0131rak\u0131yorum.
\nAileniz buraya yerle\u015fmeniz konusunda ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc?<\/strong>
\nAnnem bir d\u00f6nem \u00f6zellikle \u201cd\u00f6n\u201d diye \u00e7ok \u0131srar etti, \u00f6zellikle 2005 y\u0131l\u0131nda babam\u0131 kaybetti\u011fimde. Tam o s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 d\u00f6neminde \u0130Z TV\u2019nin teklifi geldi. Daha sonra Hollanda\u2019da prestijli bir TV program\u0131 olan Pauw & Witteman\u2019dan \u00e7a\u011f\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131m. Tabi o zaman annem \u00e7ok gururland\u0131 ve kabul etti ki burada bir \u015feyler oluyor. Ben i\u015fimi hi\u00e7bir zaman kariyer olarak g\u00f6rmedim, hep i\u00e7ten bir ses vard\u0131 ve o sesi takip ettim. Hi\u00e7 rasyonel ba\u011f kuram\u0131yorum. Zor bir zaman\u0131 ya\u015famak ve ge\u00e7mek benim i\u00e7in daha de\u011ferli oluyor. O y\u00fczden de g\u00fcnler boyunca sadece ak\u015fam yeme\u011fi yedi\u011fim zamanlar oldu. Kuru fasulye, mercimek \u00e7orbas\u0131 ve yan\u0131nda bol bol ekmek\u2026<\/p>\n

Sizin i\u00e7in memleket, yerle\u015fme gibi kavramlar ne ifade ediyor?<\/strong>
\nHollanda elbette \u00e7ok g\u00fczel bir tarihi olan, inan\u0131lmaz sanat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131 olan bir \u00fclke. O \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir zenginlik. \u00d6zellikle ilk d\u00f6nemde o rengi \u00e7ok \u00f6zledim. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u0130stanbul\u2019da 1999 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u00e7ok da fazla konserler ya da alternatif bale g\u00f6sterileri gibi etkinlikler yoktu. Amsterdam\u2019da gen\u00e7ler gece bale g\u00f6sterisine gitmek isterse, bisikletine binip \u015fehir merkezinde k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir mekanda bir bale g\u00f6sterisi izleyebilir. Burada da ba\u015fka zenginlikler var, \u00f6zellikle gezerken insanlar\u0131n hayat stiliyle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015f\u0131yorsunuz ve o kadar inan\u0131lmaz ki. Maalesef televizyonda \u00e7ok \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcc\u00fc ve bu tarihi aktarm\u0131yor. Mesela T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de g\u00fczel bir gecede arkada\u015flar\u0131n\u0131zla otururken, mutlaka birisi eline saz\u0131n\u0131 al\u0131yor. Herkes bir anda \u015fark\u0131 s\u00f6ylemeye ba\u015fl\u0131yor. Burada t\u00fcrk\u00fcler muhte\u015fem. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc burada o kadar farkl\u0131 k\u00fclt\u00fcrler bir arada ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f ki\u2026
\nProgramda gidece\u011finiz yerler nas\u0131l belirleniyor?<\/strong>
\nGenel olarak ofiste toplant\u0131da karar veriliyor ama bazen de diyorum ki, \u015furalar\u0131 \u00e7ekmek istiyorum. \u00d6rne\u011fin, Wilco\u2019nun Karavan\u0131 i\u00e7in Yalova\u2019ya gitmek istedi\u011fimi s\u00f6yledim. Patron \u201coradan bir program \u00e7\u0131kmaz\u201d dedi. Onlara dedim ki, \u201ciki programla d\u00f6nece\u011fim\u201d Sana inanmalar\u0131 ve g\u00fcvenmeleri \u00e7ok g\u00fczel. Biz gittik \u00fc\u00e7 b\u00f6l\u00fcmle d\u00f6nd\u00fck. A\u00e7\u0131k hava da makarna yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm vard\u0131r, \u00e7ok da g\u00fczel olmu\u015ftu.
\n\"\"Bu bilgiye nas\u0131l ula\u015f\u0131yorsunuz, daha \u00f6nceden gitti\u011finiz yerler mi?<\/strong>
\nBenim i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli olan \u015fey merakl\u0131 olmak, \u00e7ocu\u011fun merak\u0131na sahip olmak, onun g\u00f6zlerinden bakmak. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00e7ocuklar do\u011fru sorular\u0131 soruyor, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc kalpten geliyor onlar\u0131n sorular\u0131. Ben b\u00f6yle sorular sormak istiyorum. Diyelim ki yar\u0131n yola \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yoruz, \u00f6nce konuklar\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz, tan\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz ve sohbet ba\u015fl\u0131yor. Ben o s\u0131rada biraz geri gidiyorum. Kameraman ve asistan\u0131n oradaki insanlarla sohbet etmesini izliyorum. Baz\u0131 \u015feyler duyuyorum, o benim i\u00e7in yeterli oluyor. Ama \u00f6nceden cevab\u0131n\u0131 ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m sorular\u0131 kay\u0131ttayken sorsam o cevap sonra ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde r\u00f6portajda gelmeyecek. \u00d6zellikle teyzeler i\u00e7in zor bir durum bu, ayn\u0131 \u015feyi iki kere s\u00f6ylemezler. Ben o haz\u0131r cevaplar\u0131 istemiyorum.
\nT\u00fcrkiye\u2019de mutlaka g\u00f6r\u00fclmesi gereken birka\u00e7 yer desek\u2026<\/strong>
\nNemrut \u0130shak Pa\u015fa, \u0130stanbul i\u00e7in bir tatil yetmez, S\u00fcmela Manast\u0131r\u0131\u2026 \u015eimdi burada be\u015f yer s\u00f6ylersem, o zaman bin yere hak vermemi\u015f olurum. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc o kadar muhte\u015fem yerler var ki;\u00a0 Hasankeyf, Harran\u2026 Daha birka\u00e7 ay \u00f6nce beni Harran\u2019da bir ta\u015f oca\u011f\u0131na g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fcler, muhte\u015femdi. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin tarihini bilmek gerekiyor, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc burada bir H\u0131ristiyan i\u00e7in ba\u015fka, bir M\u00fcsl\u00fcman i\u00e7in \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli ba\u015fka yerler var. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin en b\u00fcy\u00fck s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131s\u0131, herkes i\u00e7in o kadar spesifik ve muhte\u015fem \u015feyler varken buralar\u0131n yeterince korunamamas\u0131.<\/p>\n\n

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Karavan\u0131yla gezdi\u011fi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de gezgin ruhu ve samimi sohbetiyle programlar\u0131n\u0131 haz\u0131rlayan Wilco van Herpen,\u00a0 bu \u00f6zelliklerinin \u00e7ocuklu\u011fundan geldi\u011fini anlat\u0131yor. Hollanda\u2019da ba\u015flayan maceras\u0131na T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de devam eden Wilco, her zaman bir \u00e7ocu\u011fun merak\u0131na sahip olmak istedi\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. R\u00f6portajdan birka\u00e7 g\u00fcn \u00f6nce \u015f\u00f6yle bir yak\u0131n \u00e7evreme \u201c Wilco\u2019yla r\u00f6portaja gidece\u011fim\u201d dedi\u011fimde herkesin ilk tepkisi olduk\u00e7a \u00e7o\u015fkulu oldu: \u201cAaa o […]<\/p>\n\n

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